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  Are Prayers For Real?

  by WTWizard in

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  2. bible

  you hear about prayers all the time in most religions, including jehovah's witlesses.

  and they point to scriptures about how god answered specific prayers as evidence that he is ready to answer your prayers.

  there will be a study article in the february 2008 kool-aid for those who have to attend the boasting session (and a comments you will not hear for those who don't).. now, i am going to analyze what this has to do with your prayers.

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  Sad emo

  What is prayer anyway?

  For me it's more than rattling off a wish list, it's a deep desire to see some effect - you could say I'm partly praying to myself, but hey, if God's Spirit indwells me, that's not a major problem!

  For ill people, often just knowing that others are thinking about them is a boost for them to get well - a bit like the tail runner in a race being cheered on by the crowds, they may be running on empty but they are carried on by the encouragement.

  A few years ago, my brother was seriously ill and had to undergo two massive operations followed by 5 weeks in ITU and another 2 months in a regular hospital ward, the odds were really stacked against him - only 20% chance of survival - plus the usual dangers associated with a prolonged period of ventilation - plus he contracted MRSA! Now, he's not a religious man so during all that time, I never once mentioned that either I or the prayer team in my church were praying for him, we just prayed.

  When he finally came home, he asked me "Were the folks at your church praying for me?" I have still no idea how he knew that.

  Is prayer for real then? I reckon at least some of it must be...
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  For Christians...Is It Just Me or Am I Losing My Mind

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just ended a three week sabbatical from attending my usual christian fellowship.

  going back last night, i was struck by just how superficial and shallow the worship service was.

  it was almost as if the worship leader was trying to manufacture joy in the believers.

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  Sad emo

  There's even a song called "Undignified" based on how David danced when he brought in the Ark and said, "I will become even more undignified than this."

  hmike - that's used as a worship song where you are?! I've heard it David Crowder style and would never consider it as worship music - praise maybe, but not worship!

  I suppose another way of looking at worship styles is that even the 18th-19th century hymns would have been considered as 'rowdy' when they replaced the choral/Gregorian chant stuff.

  Ah yes, how do the oldies go now - 'I surrender all some', 'Just as I am, without one plea begrudgingly'...

  Worship = old English word meaning attribution of worth to someone, yep, it's all about Him, not us.

  One of my degree modules this semester is 'Worship' so I'm bookmarking this thread for ideas - truthsearcher, I could be picking your brains a bit more soon!
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  No plan for two years.....but oompa is taking his life back!!!

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  one day at a time....and have found what may be an incredible ally in this quest.

  someone who has kicked depression and booze and has even helped sober her dad up and he is a pitiful story.....jw....multi-millionair elder/pioneer who lost it all....due to bi-polor and booze....was in prison for two years on booze crimes, but has now been sober for almost three years.....his daughter is an incredible woman massage therapist, and also teaches holistic healing.....don't know a lot about that, execept i have been helped a lot by accurpuncture and they take this holistic approach...bit btw here.....angie has helped totally awaken her dad and brother!!!!

  i am so excited to have found someone who wants to help me, thinks they can, and have sooooo much in common with and i will let you know if she can walk on water.............i am taking back my life!!!

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  Sad emo

  One day at a time is good enough - but if you struggle with that - then one hour at a time, or one minute at a time is equally good.

  Therapy alone is no good at all - for it to have any effect, you have to want to get better. If you don't want to get better, then any therapy is just another quick fix to give you an escape or plaster over your problems - much like the booze. You gotta learn new, healthier coping mechanisms and use them to deal with the real problems.

  And if the therapy is working, things will seem worse before they seem better - like cleaning dirt out of an old infected wound - it hurts. Then is the time NOT to give up!

  Still I've told you all this before.

  I wish you well with your recovery.
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  Have You Ever Reported An Abuser?

  by sweet pea in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  just wondering if any of you ever decided to report any kind of abuse, however small an incident it was.

  tonight i reported an incident of 20 years ago to the authorities.

  a man came up to me in london on the pretense that he was recruiting for christian dior and to cut a long story short we arranged to meet the next day for an interview.

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  Why wait 20 years?

  fokyc

  Soometimes it takes that long to realise that what happened to you was a) bad and b) not your fault

  If the guy who molested me all those years ago was still alive, yes I'd have reported him to the police.
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  Is love enough?

  by wings in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  this is a continuation in the conversation started by 'thegoodgirl'..."how long do you stay in love".

  i don't get to spend time on this site very often, but, i hate ending a thread two days late.

  i would like to dove tail with this question "is love enough?

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  Love is an important element but not enough on its own.

  Love is 'merely' the glue which holds everything else together
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  Hey a new book

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  left behind answered verse by verse is scheduled to be released to book stores and online distributors in march, but advance copies are available now directly from the publisher at http://www.lulu.com/content/1876951 more info is available at http://www.leftbehindanswered.comsounds like an interesting book?

  by david reed

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  Sad emo

  There's nothing really particularly wrong about the Left Behind books - as long as they are read for what they are - FICTION!!!!

  The problem is that some Christians seem to have a problem separating truth from fiction (waits for someone to lift this sentence completely out of context!). They've fallen hook, line and sinker for this money-spinning racket and seem to believe that as it is 'Biblically based' fiction, it is an accurate description of what must happen - whereas the Bible is actually quite vague about the order of events.

  It's the gullible sheeple who need refuting, not the books, although the apparent failure of the authors to publish disclaimers doesn't particularly help either
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  why wont this thing let me log in!?!?!

  by djday1985 in

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  Sad emo

  Have you folks got AOhelL?

  When I had that, I had serious problems staying logged in - something to do with their accelerator software

  Solution - I dumped 'em!
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  What are you eating right now?

  by Bourne in

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  i just ate a bowl of cereal !

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  wow.......how exciting....... bourne.

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  Sad emo

  Beef curry & rice.

  - frozen microwaveable ready meal, great when you don't know what you want to eat.
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  For Christians...Is It Just Me or Am I Losing My Mind

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just ended a three week sabbatical from attending my usual christian fellowship.

  going back last night, i was struck by just how superficial and shallow the worship service was.

  it was almost as if the worship leader was trying to manufacture joy in the believers.

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  It's almost like they try to sell church, but that's really not what its about.

  Cog may have a point, but, I think many believe it's about filling the pews. It should be more about God centered worship.

  Thanks DD - that's exactly what I was trying to say - church is about God, not about how good it makes us feel!

  Robdar:

  But what's wrong with a little joy, artificially produced or not?

  Dunno about anyone else but when I experience artificial joy, I feel twice as crappy when its over - its like a high you'd get from any other stimulant - alcohol, drugs etc. its just escapism and the problems are still there when the high is gone.

  You got me thinking if that's where a lot of churches get it wrong today - even the less happy-clappy ones - we can go and 'do church' for an hour on Sundays and maybe other times during the week and it makes the problems go away for a while, they get covered over, packed away or stuffed down - "God will make it all better", when really we should be dealing with the bad stuff - and we end up with 'Sunday Christians', where they are nice, polite, friendly etc on Sunday but absolute ogres the rest of the week! (But its ok cos God will forgive them again next Sunday!!)

  Ah thinking, thinking....
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  For Christians...Is It Just Me or Am I Losing My Mind

  by XJW4EVR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just ended a three week sabbatical from attending my usual christian fellowship.

  going back last night, i was struck by just how superficial and shallow the worship service was.

  it was almost as if the worship leader was trying to manufacture joy in the believers.

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  Sad emo

  Nope, it's not just you!

  I've seen a few church services which use what I term 'emotional manipulation' - some of us, like you are more aware of what's going on. Maybe its time for you to seek another place to fellowship?

  Whilst not throwing out 'happy clappy' all together, because I do think that in moderation and with the right leadership, it can be good too, I do think some goes way OTT. When I find myself in that setting, I'll either walk out or mentally take myself out.

  It's almost like they try to sell church, but that's really not what its about.